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Heather Hay Charron 🇨🇦's avatar

I care. The Order of Canada is our highest civilian honour. These honours need to be revoked if that highest standard is not maintained. My father was awarded the Order of Military Merit at the Member level. It is the second highest honour after the Order of Canada, and he earned it, as did so many others.

Dave Makichuk's avatar

Holy crap ... an incredible report, as usual sir! ...

UncleMac's avatar

I've more or less given up on the Order of Canada in the modern era being anything other than a Liberal party favour gifted by Liberals for Liberals.

Russell McOrmond's avatar

I see the same confusing suggestion of partisanship in relation to the CBC.

These institutions aren't partisan about the Liberal Party of Canada (LPC).

They are partisan about the Dominion of Canada, which is a Western European style Westphalian liberal democracy. A different meaning for the word "liberal", built upon Western Europe's concept of liberalism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

The other parties that currently have seats in the federal parliament are protest parties. They are the SOCRED/Reform party who took over the Progressive Conservative party, the CCF/NDP which have similar roots as SOCRED/Reform, the Bloc Quebecois, and whatever we think Elizabeth May is doing before she finally retires.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PK3dnGheWA

It was far more obvious that these institutions were loyal to the Dominion of Canada and not any political party when the federal PC party still existed, and there were at least two federal parties whose partisans had clear loyalty to the Canadian Crown (the formal name for the Canadian federal institutions -- not the name of a person).

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Note: While I was granted citizenship by the Dominion of Canada at birth, I'm not a fan of the LPC, CBC, the Dominion of Canada, Western European liberalism (or Western European conservatism).

UncleMac's avatar

Interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing.

Scott Carter's avatar

Interesting comments. I’m not sure about the use of the phrase “Dominion of Canada”. I believe we are decades past that throwback to the days of empire.

Russell McOrmond's avatar

Adding prefix: The point of my note above was to try to alert people to how thinking in terms of fiscal quarters, decades, or even human lifespans makes things such as the CBC or the Order of Canada seem tied to ephemeral political brands. Understanding what is happening today requires understanding the ongoing impacts of politics over longer periods of time.

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Can you share why you believe that change in branding represented a substantive policy change?

What do you mean by "throwback to the days of empire"? In what way did that change?

I don't mean individuals wanting to forget (and seek to absolve responsibilities), but actual policy changes to move away from Empire (and I don't only mean the British and French Empires, also embedded into Canadian Law, but also the territorial expansion on this continent).

Note: I'm aware of the "myth of progress" that is part of Western European Enlightenment "linear time", where there is an assumption that time itself generates change.